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David Bridburg

5 Months Ago

Tik Tok Reels And Shorts Marketing

This is about shorts, YouTube's long standing response to Tik Tok.

Any videos or animations made for FB/IG and Tik Tok can be shorts.

Again YouTube is giving reach to shorts that other videos are not getting.

A quote today from the NYT, "People watch more than one billion hours of YouTube videos daily."

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This thread is a positive discussion of using videos. Examples are welcome IF the video is under one minute.

If you are not using videos or do not like the idea of it, this thread is not for you. Please refrain from adding here. I get many artists with static art would need to make some sort of leap to use these videos. The marketing beyond that takes effort to be more viral.

I am interested in how your video presentations of Shorts and Reels are going. By definition that is videos under one minute. Please refrain from adding videos over one minute.

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David Bridburg

5 Months Ago

As of today I have completed 60 animations. After I register them with the USCO I will go public with them.

 

Carmen Hathaway

5 Months Ago

 

Look forward to seeing your animations David.

I've been into video animation for a few years — instinctively keeping them, for the most part, well under a minute.

I recently came across several articles about viewer engagement. An example: https://martech.org/how-to-advertise-to-an-audience-with-an-8-second-attention-span/

I use both YouTube, and Vimeo. Will you be monetizing your videos?

 

David Bridburg

5 Months Ago

Carmen,

I have my thumb on the pulse of the very commercial music business. I realized a few years ago that viral hip hop artists made about $2000 for 400 million views. I am making up numbers but you get the point. The pay off is very low. And I wont get 400 million views. Or I am not banking on that.

Then I noticed last year that Ariana Grande had no ads on one of her videos. I do not know if that applies across the board. She was being smart. Basically more people would watch the video all the way through. That promoted her work even more so. So she forgoes what? $50k per year? That is cheap advertising to spread the word of her music. She banks then on concert dates which pay in the millions.

Carmen we can not openly discuss NFTs here, but feel free to email me if you have plans with NFTs. I am interested in your take.

 

David Bridburg

5 Months Ago

Carmen,

Since the six points are cookie cutter in the article much of it does not apply to me. Some of it applies more when the article was written.

The thing that really applies to me is point five. Personalizing the ad.

Are you monetizing your videos? What is your take away?

 

Abbie Shores

5 Months Ago

I am seriously, seriously, hoping YouTube doesn't get full of shorts.

One reason I love YouTube are the full length stories, music, tutorials.

If that changes then I'd leave

 

Lilith Seven

5 Months Ago

Abbie it probably will not.

In particular if people are trying to monetise their YouTube account. As far a I can see that the hours viewed for shorts do not count.

David; It seems to me that while you can embed short videos you can not in fact embed shorts.

Howevr here goes.

 

Lilith Seven

5 Months Ago

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i8YHACkAsow

It is called War Child.

It is a short so a link is the best I can do.

 

Lilith Seven

5 Months Ago



This is a short video but not a short so I can embed a link.

 

Lilith Seven

5 Months Ago

The difference between a YouTube short and a short YouTube video seems to depend on format as well as length.

So a short video in square/portrait format turns out as a short but in landscape format turns out as a short video.

It is now possible to attach hashtags to YouTube videos but not shorts (I might be missing a trick)

 

Lilith Seven

5 Months Ago

 

Lilith Seven

5 Months Ago

Both War child and Girls of War have been up for a day.

Girls of War has got five views; which does not surprise me, given that I have only really begun working on my YouTube Channel this month.

On the other hand War Child has got 736 views in the same time. That really does surprise me.

 

Lilith Seven

5 Months Ago

 

Lilith Seven

5 Months Ago

 

Lilith Seven

5 Months Ago

DB what interests me is the following in reality while our experience here might be fairly static in galleries it is anything but.

We do not stand in one spot with our eyes fixed on one point; we move around.

In 3d animation there is a world view; where the camera moves and a local view where the 'actors move'

What I am trying to do is along the lines of the first.

 

Lilith Seven

5 Months Ago

 

Lilith Seven

5 Months Ago

Enough for now. The dog wants his walk; and if he wants his walk he gets his walk.

 

Matthias Hauser

5 Months Ago

I created some shorts for my (neglected) YouTube channel (Acrylic Pouring and Fractal Art). Here is one of them:



I also uploaded some longer videos that do show more of the painting process.

 

Matthias Hauser

5 Months Ago

Another one (Fractal Art): https://youtube.com/shorts/_U2XHseOH6g

 

David Bridburg

5 Months Ago

Abbie,

I am pretty sure YouTube does not need to push the shorts the way FB and Tik Tok have. Because time on site is valuable. YouTube seems to just have them riding along side. But I am very new to this and started this thread to learn much more.

Martin,

Thank you for all the information. I will think of titles like "NFT number x ABC" Since the name is clickable people can find my link tree to see the NFT collection. The art must sell the project. As always this is hit or miss.

The camera work is an interesting discussion. I move the actor but in a Blender animation. I am working on prototype number 4 this morning. There will be 20 versions total in the next three days. I am getting faster at this. Workflow has been critical to get right.

Matthias,

Very nice examples. The music is nice. The first one which I just watched is close to a DIY. Part of this is how to market....including how to sell a product. I am trying to coordinate that.

 

David Bridburg

5 Months Ago

The thing that really applies to me is point five. Personalizing the ad.

Carmen,

I misread point number five wrong last night. I am not personalizing the ads. I am personalizing the art to me the artist. NFT art returns the concept of original ownership to digital art in that vein I am owning the concept very clearly in the presentation.

 

Edward Fielding

5 Months Ago

Not sure the art buying market is the same as the "I watch YouTube all day and night" market. Although if you are selling pizza delivery or house cleaning services, that might be a fruitful market to target.

 

David Bridburg

5 Months Ago

Ed,

It is very difficult to capitalize on. All I can say is my project will as always be hit or miss. Of course all of us on YouTube have had only limited success. Although I can think of one photographer here doing DIY videos who really has built a following. I can think of one NYC photographer here as well who has had billions of views.

As of now I am not sure when it will be made public. I am looking at two factors with Eth, the value breaking out above $4700 later this year and the Difficulty Bomb being successful to implement a new structure for the blockchain hopefully in June.

If a super model can sell lipstick because she is a smashing hit others can sell product. Not looking to sell as much obviously. If a hit it is a matter of coordinating the window shopping.

As designers we individually take stock if we want of how to approach the public online to be viral. That of course is far from guaranteeing any success, but we are designers we have a big edge. Even if we need a completely different product.

 

Carmen Hathaway

5 Months Ago

 

David, no, not monetizing via YouTube.

Gallery exhibits work best for me in that regard.

There are those that provide exhibit fees, you have to source those out, usually by Calls for Submission.

 

David Bridburg

5 Months Ago

Carmen,

I am not sure what you mean?

As in influencers?

adding

Oh you mean for your gallery exhibits. For now I am not looking for gallery space. I have not given it any thought.

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Carmen Hathaway

5 Months Ago

 

Not gallery space per se, David. Many galleries have online platforms. Those are the ones to source if you're looking for exhibit fees.

Specifically via their Calls for Submission.

For example, came across one today that will pair applicants with a mentor. The call for submission was very specific, for example, no animations.

Which my NIkon will come in very handy for.


Definitely not as an influencer. I leave that to those inclined to that mode.

 

David Bridburg

4 Months Ago

Carmen,

Looking forward to going public with the animations. Some time next week. Perhaps next weekend.

Nice to have the oldsters still with us. We will have a very nice brunch.

 

Lilith Seven

4 Months Ago

 

Lilith Seven

4 Months Ago

David I am looking forward to seeing them.

 

David Bridburg

4 Months Ago

Martin,

The colors in that last video are fun.

adding for a few technical reasons I am backed up an extra couple of days.

 

Lilith Seven

4 Months Ago



My latest!

 

David Bridburg

4 Months Ago

I bumped into a friend of mine who is a top machine tool designer. CT really excels in tool and dye. He advised me that there can be problems with surfaces in a design if there is a folding of the surface or a cone coming to a point. In the cone's case the point has nothing to work with, so a ball can be added to a point to work it.

A folded surface makes the math too complex at times.

My friend uses a different software than Blender but the math for the geometry has to be the exact same. There can be no differences in the math behind the scenes.

 

Lilith Seven

4 Months Ago

There is geometry and topology. Different software handles topology in different way.

Blend is quite good at doing that. The teapot primitive is there for that reason.

 

David Bridburg

4 Months Ago

Yep but building an object is based on geometry. This includes the surface of the object.

adding, I am nixing the tenth and last prototype as too complex for Blender. But it is not just Blender any software involving geometry can not do what I need of it.

 
 

Lilith Seven

4 Months Ago

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FCSumLKaUww

You can see the tears!

Now its bed time!

 

Lilith Seven

4 Months Ago

David have you tried Nurbs.

 

Lilith Seven

4 Months Ago

I am not sure exactly what you mean by geometry, do you mean polygon modelling?

 

Lilith Seven

4 Months Ago

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e1iA_Hyf0GI

My latest; it is called 12 AM!

 

David Bridburg

4 Months Ago

Martin,

The Nurbs are interesting. Might have worked but I went to a different concept for my last prototype. I am hoping it floors people.

 

David Bridburg

4 Months Ago

How to load FB reels.

 

David Bridburg

4 Months Ago

Tomorrow I will be wrapping up my project. 200 animations in the can.

I am organizing them for uploading on the eCo to register them. That will take two days. It is 20 submissions forms to the copyrights office.

I will then load my site here.

Then add the animations to a collection on Opensea. Puts me into Wednesday 18th? Somewhere in there. That is about the time y'all will see the other premium site I have.

Add around 3 weeks of marketing them, then add around 3 weeks of an auction period, the entire show will be over end of June.

I am about four weeks ahead of schedule. That takes a lot of pressure off of my vacation, which is the least of it. But god do I need a vacation. So looking forward to seeing family.

 

Carmen Hathaway

4 Months Ago

 

A bit of fun in pondering how things can turn out. Distortion's a fav mode of mine.
 

 

David Bridburg

4 Months Ago

Carmen that is ultra cool.

There is a famous digital artist at the top of the income ladder, way up, making the line abstracts similarly. But he does it only as fill. He is playing a massive game with numbers of editions in the NFT world.

He has absolutely nothing on how you ended that video. He is trying for no aesthetic. Just proof of a numbers game.

https://twitter.com/muratpak


PS my schedule is looking like all the work will be registered hopefully by Friday. It might take me four days to put the work on Opensea. Hopefully May 24 everything will be fully public.

 

Carmen Hathaway

4 Months Ago

 

Thanks David — I enjoy terrific fun in my creative process.

Looking forward to your presentations May 24-ish.

 
 

Carmen Hathaway

4 Months Ago

 

One of the aspects I enjoy most in animations is using my own original textures on the object models. Looking forward to seeing what you've applied in your animations, David.

In this piece, I applied the image from a scan I created of an acrylic painting I created several years ago. I scanned at 800 dpi — the resulting hi rez textural detail comes in very handy for various projects.

All original composition.

 

 

Dark Pixie

4 Months Ago

I love this one Carmen.

 

David Bridburg

4 Months Ago

Carmen,

I am back in town so to speak. Nice work, very impressive with the 800 dpi.

I have setup a site here. I have selected a wallet and started a collection on Opensea. But it will be two to three days before I am totally setup.

 

Carmen Hathaway

4 Months Ago

 


Thanks Martin, and David — on with the show(s) — this is it    ;)

Enjoying looking back a few years, this from 2017.


 

David Bridburg

4 Months Ago

Great music Carmen. Impressive roar.

I am going to have to make "cards" for my animations to list them on Opensea. The process now is heavy clerical lifting. Perhaps 6 days of work.

Still everything will be in full swing before June.

 

Carmen Hathaway

1 Month Ago

 

Inspired by the 2022 Abenaki Pow Wow, July 29-31,Odanak, Quebec, Canada

Features my original images,soundtrack, animation.
 




I'm a member of the Odanak Abenaki First Nation The Abenaki double curve motif is featured throughout the video.

 

Holy Rock Design

1 Month Ago

On IG anf FB, I find that my short form videos now have more reach than photos. So I post those occasionally sprinkled in with the regular image carousels. Here's a sample insta vid:



Showcases like these have gotten conversions to sales for my stores in other platforms. As of the moment I haven't started doing marketing for my FAA material yet (As I'm new... and in the middle of a very long ingress process here. Hahaha). But I fully plan to incorporate FAA materials in my videos in my socmed post rotation



Also.. cinemagraphs are always fun and a fan favorite! Creative way to make dynamic media with static source artworks.



 

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