Repost Tags And Descriptions

Thanks Abbie great informaton In the process of working new keywords If title is changed it will replace old and replace ph photo with new placement among the pages which its found doing keyword search keyword search will go with updated title, is this correct I agree easier understanding

If you change the title of an image it will lose all the links it has already established. FAA incorporated the image title in the URI for the image page. I had this happen when I "tidied up" and used dashes in titles, losing the links....

-Richard Reeve
ReevePhotos.com

Good info. I do have a question that I've been wondering about for a while but haven't researched it yet. For photographers, does anyone include tags on the equipment they used to take photo? Such as Canon 5D, Nikon, ect.

there is no point listing equipment. buyers don't care.

i use a #45 spatula, and the gwenmire fork, prepared it in the wisconsin 3000 stove.... i ordered a steak, that's all i care about. i wouldn't waste space on the equipment. its not useful. not even to another photographer (which aren't your customers anyway) because after editing, you don't know what it really looked like to start with. only focus what's in the picture and who its for.

---Mike Savad
MikeSavad.com

Some do, but why waste the tags? This is a sale site. Is anyone really going to buy an image for their house simply because you used an Canon 5D?

-Richard Reeve
ReevePhotos.com

(edit: you beat me to it, Mike !)

Do people search by the camera that took the photo or the subject of the photo? Think.

I think those tags (Such as the type of camera) are better served for other sites.... likely flickr, where you are appealing to other photographers merely for social reasons. Not to attract buyers

As to title - this is the question I have had from day one coming to FAA. I had been used to naming images the way you describe from working with the stock agencies I used to upload to. Creative names were of absolutely no use in their searches unless, of course, the creative name did describe the image. But that usually was/is not the case. So when I got out of stock and began concentrating on fine art photography, I was seeing the complete opposite with almost all of the image titles here. So I questioned many people. For the most part, the consensus was that the "fine art" world was completely different from the "stock" world, and I get that. But there was still that gnawing in me that asked how were people going to find my image with a "creative title"? Some say that collectors want and look to the creative title because it gives them a real connection with the piece. I know this has been a topic that has been batted back and forth many times here on FAA.

This is very helpful, thanks Abbie!

I've been trying to slowly build my site here and be diligent about my text as I'm uploading. I was very bad with that on my Zenfolio site, so am trying to get things correct from the start. If anyone has a few minutes to check my titles, descriptions & keywords, I'd appreciate any feedback to let me know if I'm on the right track or not. :)

Good discussion, Abbie!

Carolyn, I suggest using whatever title you choose, but focusing on your keywords/tags and descriptions for adding search terms and worrying about SEO (search engine optimization). People who are searching art through Google or FAA will find your images through your descriptions or keywords/tags.

I go the creative route, and receive positive comments on the impact of my titles all the time -- both online and in the real world. To me, titles are part of the story I'm telling with my art. The title is not equivalent to the main plot, but is definitely an important supporting character. :-)

As for keywords, Abbie's examples, above, are a solid start -- but art is also about mood / emotions / feelings -- I feel it's important to represent those elements with keywords, too. That's especially important when keywording my many abstract images. When searching for art, I'm much more likely to search 'mysterious man' than I am 'tall man'. I prefer pieces with lots of emotional ambiance, so search accordingly. I know other people (not all) do the same.

Is the word 'mysterious' actually a physical part of the picture; printed on a sign or painted in the trees? No, of course not.

Do I know a 'mysterious' (or 'cheery', or 'quiet' or 'pensive' or 'whimsical') image when I see one? Absolutely!

Also, as Michael mentioned above, beware changing titles mid-stream. If you've already posted the link to that image in a press release, blog, article, social media comment, or elsewhere, changing the title will break those links, making it impossible for interested parties to easily navigate to your image. I found that out the hard way, back when I was an FAA newbie. :-/

I have a question, if anyone knows the answer: I have some images that are especially suited for greeting cards. Should I use "greeting card" in my tags, or just "greeting"? If I used greeting card In a search, would that come up as "greeting card card"? After all this time, I still don't quite get it, lol.

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Very helpful, thank you :)!

Thanks for the information Abbie.

Thanks Mike.

I only asked that because for example when I'm looking for a camera I like to search photos taken by the camera I'm looking at. I never thought I made sense to add that tag, but I was curious if anyone else did,

bump

I'm curious about nudes that are shot in a studio. Can the name of the city it's shot in be used as a keyword?

Not really. It is a nude in a studio, not in the city (you may get arrested)

Thank you, Abbie.

What my friend here say's that it sounds like you are a little bit gone in the head...

insulting anyone in particular?


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

Go and sort your images out please, Sheila

wow... she actually posted more instead.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

Wow! What a great tip Abbie I'm just sitting thinking like a blind person - it's amazing 👍😀

Just thought of loads more for my latest painting 😀👍

It actually really works :)

Thanks Abbie for more on this. Someone had mentioned you can go back and change the tags butt not the title name? I this correct. If so you may want to say more on this. I just saw a comment where someone was changing the title? I am also in the process of going back and correcting images when I first started. I did not have commas on a lat of them and have had to go back and adjust those first posts. A lot of work but well worth it. Also just posted about my retial price is not showing up on th first search page to th site under wild chickens.It is very low and my page is showing the correct price.This would be a great let down for the customer when they click into an image off the first search in photos. Thanks for any advice to correct this. Jan Gelders Photography

Time for me to do some revisiting images again, too. BTW, thank you Wendy for your reply to my question above. Good grief, 5 months ago, sorry I missed it.

shepherd?

I didn't know the man was herding sheep in your imaginary image, Abbie.

Jan, you can change the title but links will be broken as it also changes the URL

Will the links be broken if you change keywords and/or description?

No, Jamie, they won't.

Thanks, Abbie for this point! Descriptive information really essencial for the search. But regarding the key words I would say something more.
Its not what only in the image, but you can also describe the feelings, mood. Also you can menation that its art for home, for interiors and everything what you can expect that buyer looking for...
How about LOVE? Is it possible to put in key words only when there is the written word -"love" - or you would put it for some romantic scene... Or tenderness etc...
As for me i do put such key words..

Thank you, Abbie.....Great information.

Thank you

I would also use generic love... Romance, Valentine's, etc

Wendy. We have been told that Google now looks at titles and descriptions, not keywords (tags) simply because so many people spammed keywords in the past.

Keywords are to get you found in this site’s internal search.

I want a friend called Nifty!

Thanks, this is an oldy, but a goody. Now I am going to re-evaluate my images and explain them as if I was describing it to a blind person.

Great information - I just haven't figured out how to use it with the majority of my digitally created abstracts. rd

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Here's a popular video of literal descriptions based on the music video for this Bonnie Tyler song. the original had clearer video but disappeared from the web years ago. Watch this for a laugh and for example of literal descriptions. and from the descriptions you take your tags (keywords)
https://youtu.be/XMmXCyrV_WQ

Hello, i want to ask about keywords. I wonder if I can write keywords like this etc.: flower,nature,outdoor or do I have to write like this: flower, nature, outdoor. So my question is whether there must be a space between the words after the comma. I use a keyword program and after uploading it just puts it right after itself without a space between the comma and the word, I wonder how FAA takes it afterwards.. if it seams the 50 words as 1 or takes it normally. Thanks for the reply!

flower,nature,outdoor works fine and saves space